> It is amazing how a little conversation between characters can create assumptions that we will never know if they are correct or not. The way I read it I believed that Arthur was using his lawyer strategies to get the truth from Lee. /Parent 3 0 R Though conflict is a literary device I think it can also be considered to be a theme. << A game of wits commences as Arthur babbles belligerently about his wife, wearing down Lee's patience. How he is perceived by others (and society) dictating how he is to live his life, rather than base his life on any sort of truth (and in turn leave Joanie). The point of the story being a discussion, whether that be an internal or external discussion with others of who the girl in bed with lee is. stream
He calls Lee back saying Joanie just walked through the door; if Lee sounds shocked then, yes Joanie is in bed with Lee. It’s hard to tell really what Salinger was trying to convey especially because he literally writes down a conversation between two lawyers and we aren’t actually told anything besides what we read between the lines. /Resources Thanks for the comment. All in all it was a good gossipy read that I will never forget. Or I start thinking about--Christ, it's embarrassing--I start thinking about this goddam poem I sent her when we first started goin' around together. However, when the second call happened, Lee lost his voice. It would be interesting to look at the story in a different way and imagine that the girl is not Joanie but still look at the friendship between Lee and Arthur. She doesn't have green eyes--she has eyes like goddam sea shells, for Chrissake.”, “She doesn't respect me. Just when you think you have it figured out, it takes a turn. ��8�DZ�I���ƞy3�͛M.dz��%��[�ƻ3%{�4����a�� ?�`�����࠙�����usb����ӕ���*%����1CPe�:�L;v~��'U���p�C��C��+��r��a��@��1FŘO��p�|��AY�C9������*��7���W�"H4�\P��!��a��������X�6�2���˜0Dz�D��Y��H�m
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After chipping away at Lee, Arthur has one last test to see if his suspicions that Joanie is in his bed are true. Their inner feelings are hidden from us, and thus, so are their motives. << Probably my favorite inclusion in 'Nine Stories'. /MediaBox [0 0 595 842] /F2 8 0 R I suspect Arthur saw them chatting at the party and thats why he suspected him of taking his wife home in the first place. >> He asks Lee if he can come over for a drink, but Lee tells him he better stay put and wait for Joanie to arrive. Lee loses his cool completely and fakes a headache. Check your inbox or spam folder to confirm your subscription. It’s important to note that it may not be Joanie in Lee’s bed. Rather than leave Joanie, he will continue to accept her infidelities. The tension between the two characters over the phone is remarkable. Christ, it's embarrassing--it used to remind me of her. Be sure to read. J.D. /Author (Amin) Did anyone else feel like possibly Arthur tried to wrap up loose ends in terms of his reputation and place his relationship with himself in a less pathetic and bitter light... because he was like fuck it all and decided to kill himself? Taken from his Nine Stories collection the story is narrated in the third person by an unnamed narrator and after reading the story the reader suspects that Salinger is exploring the theme of conflict. Pretty Mouth and Green My Eyes is a required reading for my English 11 (Literature and Society) class. Salinger in someway, Readers' Most Anticipated Books of November. The fact that Arthur lies to Lee when he rings Lee for a second time may also be important. FYI – from an academic POV conflict is not a theme. For me the answer is yes.) 4 0 obj Երկու պատմվածք է գրքում։ Մեկը՝ «իր ավանդական» թեմայով, մյուսը՝ դրան մոտ։ Սովորական պատմվածքներ են, ոչ լավը, ոչ վատը։ Սելինջեր չեմ հավանում, խնդիրը անշուշտ ես եմ կամ գուցե տրամադրության հարց է։ Թարգմանությունները հաջողված են, չեն «նեղում»։ Սելինջերասիրահարներին՝ խորհուրդ է տրվում։))). The ending of the story is also interesting as it is ambiguous. Best wishes. /CreationDate (D:20070506000816+03'30') 9 0 obj In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. However it may be significant that Lee does tell Joanie to ‘just sit still’ after the cigarette falls onto the bed. On several occasions, Salinger makes reference to cigarette ash. They’re supposed to be friends but obviously Lee does not value the friendship. Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. It may be a case that Arthur wishes to maintain or portray an image of happiness (to Lee) rather than having Lee know the truth. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Despite it being clear to Arthur that he can’t trust Joanie, he is unable to completely let her go (something that is also noticeable at the end of the story). By having Joanie face Lee with ‘one eye – on the side of the light closed tight’ it is possible that Salinger is placing the spot light or focus on Joanie, though the fact she has her eye shut suggests that she is unaware that the spot light is now on her (she does remain unsure of what Arthur has said on the phone). Just as the reader suspects that things will not change for Arthur (he is to remain paralysed). I suspect Arthur saw them chatting at the party and thats why he suspected him of taking his wife home in the first place. I have a feeling that it would be a part of my … Joanie too appears to be in conflict within herself (over her cheating on Arthur). Your email address will not be published. They are first described by Salinger as blue, then violet and later in the story Arthur describes them as being like seashells (grey). 1 0 obj Could what you thought was happening was or wasn't? %����
Y esas formas abruptas de acabar los relatos me impactan... What seems to be a fairly day-to-day conversation can mean so much more when Salinger puts his spin on it. There are no discussion topics on this book yet. /Type /Page Christ! If anything Lee appears to be allowing his ego to come into play. Salinger.". Throughout the story the reader never knows for sure what colour Joanie’s eyes actually are. endobj Lee tires of Arthur when the discussion about Junior begins. The tension between the two characters over the phone is remarkable. I'll give you my reading of this dramatic phone call between two colleagues/friends. I think Lee was a winner at first. In Pretty Mouth and Green My Eyes by J.D. It is possible that Arthur, having previously revealed his vulnerability to Lee (about Joanie cheating on him) may now feel even more vulnerable and in order to protect himself (and not display any further weakness) has lied to Lee, assuring him that Joanie has returned home. We’d love your help. /Length 5 0 R I sensed that Arthur had metaphorically screwed Lee at the law firm and was now about to, or had, literally screw(ed) his wife: hearing this mirrored on the phone may be too much for Arthur here. But does it really? All in all it was a good gossipy read that I will never forget. At first, I thought "the girl" in the story is Joanie. Great story for anyone looking to read a "thinker.". “One glance at a book and you hear the voice of another person, perhaps someone dead for 1,000 years. I'll give you my reading of this dramatic phone call between two colleagues/friends. Salinger's Catcher in the Rye, but I'm still unable to have the opportunity, what with the unceasing demands of college. Their colour appears to change on several occasions. Arthur’s job insecurity seems a large point here. The way they both lie to one another at the end of the story puzzled me, intrigued me to understand even more about Arthur's relationship with his wife. I spent time to clarify who "the girl" is. It is an assumption, but she is Joanie for sure, otherwise the story wouldn’t make any sense. Without trying to give too much away, its important to rememebr these men’s professions when reading this, and of course pay attention to the eye color. The important fact in this story was that the winner became a loser, and the loser became a winner at last. I don't know.”, Books that are related to J.D. I guess I expected a bit more from Salinger. For Esmé—with Love and Squalor by J.D. endobj Thanks for the comment Luis. >> /Contents 4 0 R It may also be important that at no stage in the story does Lee appear to feel any guilt about the fact that he is deceiving and betraying Arthur. It varies. For me the answer is yes.) The fact that Joanie is sleeping with Lee, who is after all supposed to be Arthur’s friend, suggests not only a level of dishonesty within Joanie (and Lee) but also serves to highlight to the reader the degree of deception that Joanie and Lee are undertaking. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. This is noticeable when Joanie tells Lee that ‘I feel like an absolute dog!’ However the reader does not get a sense that Joanie wishes to end her affair with Lee or at least Salinger does not explore the possibility of Joanie ending the affair. Lee, keeping cool, tries to convince Author he's crazy and needs to go to sleep, keeping him in the dark about his affair. Salinger, Just Before the War with the Eskimos by J.D. H��V�n�0��+|,�{��Ω��"R�h$$n�v�� There is an assumption (on my behalf) that the girl in Lee’s bed is Joanie. Quo�O���4�\���&?endstream I don't know. Your email address will not be published. Finally, I got an answer which was it is not important in this story. `Rose my color is. After reading it a second and third and even a fourth time a lot more was revealed. He was giving advise (he just said you shoul relax, so I don't think it worked for him), and Arthur was being trouble. This short story is definetely one of my all time favorites, which means I might possibly be biased about it, which in turn means that I do realize it might not be everyone's cup of tea; that's just the way it goes with Salinger, and I have to accept it. 'Rose my color is. There is also some symbolism in the story which may be significant. It is really clear who is winner at last. Salinger sabía hacer sus historias pesar sobre el lector. H��WKo1��W�rX�?�ˍ��H���J���P�=�����q�
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> It is amazing how a little conversation between characters can create assumptions that we will never know if they are correct or not. The way I read it I believed that Arthur was using his lawyer strategies to get the truth from Lee. /Parent 3 0 R Though conflict is a literary device I think it can also be considered to be a theme. << A game of wits commences as Arthur babbles belligerently about his wife, wearing down Lee's patience. How he is perceived by others (and society) dictating how he is to live his life, rather than base his life on any sort of truth (and in turn leave Joanie). The point of the story being a discussion, whether that be an internal or external discussion with others of who the girl in bed with lee is. stream
He calls Lee back saying Joanie just walked through the door; if Lee sounds shocked then, yes Joanie is in bed with Lee. It’s hard to tell really what Salinger was trying to convey especially because he literally writes down a conversation between two lawyers and we aren’t actually told anything besides what we read between the lines. /Resources Thanks for the comment. All in all it was a good gossipy read that I will never forget. Or I start thinking about--Christ, it's embarrassing--I start thinking about this goddam poem I sent her when we first started goin' around together. However, when the second call happened, Lee lost his voice. It would be interesting to look at the story in a different way and imagine that the girl is not Joanie but still look at the friendship between Lee and Arthur. She doesn't have green eyes--she has eyes like goddam sea shells, for Chrissake.”, “She doesn't respect me. Just when you think you have it figured out, it takes a turn. ��8�DZ�I���ƞy3�͛M.dz��%��[�ƻ3%{�4����a�� ?�`�����࠙�����usb����ӕ���*%����1CPe�:�L;v~��'U���p�C��C��+��r��a��@��1FŘO��p�|��AY�C9������*��7���W�"H4�\P��!��a��������X�6�2���˜0Dz�D��Y��H�m
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After chipping away at Lee, Arthur has one last test to see if his suspicions that Joanie is in his bed are true. Their inner feelings are hidden from us, and thus, so are their motives. << Probably my favorite inclusion in 'Nine Stories'. /MediaBox [0 0 595 842] /F2 8 0 R I suspect Arthur saw them chatting at the party and thats why he suspected him of taking his wife home in the first place. >> He asks Lee if he can come over for a drink, but Lee tells him he better stay put and wait for Joanie to arrive. Lee loses his cool completely and fakes a headache. Check your inbox or spam folder to confirm your subscription. It’s important to note that it may not be Joanie in Lee’s bed. Rather than leave Joanie, he will continue to accept her infidelities. The tension between the two characters over the phone is remarkable. Christ, it's embarrassing--it used to remind me of her. Be sure to read. J.D. /Author (Amin) Did anyone else feel like possibly Arthur tried to wrap up loose ends in terms of his reputation and place his relationship with himself in a less pathetic and bitter light... because he was like fuck it all and decided to kill himself? Taken from his Nine Stories collection the story is narrated in the third person by an unnamed narrator and after reading the story the reader suspects that Salinger is exploring the theme of conflict. Pretty Mouth and Green My Eyes is a required reading for my English 11 (Literature and Society) class. Salinger in someway, Readers' Most Anticipated Books of November. The fact that Arthur lies to Lee when he rings Lee for a second time may also be important. FYI – from an academic POV conflict is not a theme. For me the answer is yes.) 4 0 obj Երկու պատմվածք է գրքում։ Մեկը՝ «իր ավանդական» թեմայով, մյուսը՝ դրան մոտ։ Սովորական պատմվածքներ են, ոչ լավը, ոչ վատը։ Սելինջեր չեմ հավանում, խնդիրը անշուշտ ես եմ կամ գուցե տրամադրության հարց է։ Թարգմանությունները հաջողված են, չեն «նեղում»։ Սելինջերասիրահարներին՝ խորհուրդ է տրվում։))). The ending of the story is also interesting as it is ambiguous. Best wishes. /CreationDate (D:20070506000816+03'30') 9 0 obj In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. However it may be significant that Lee does tell Joanie to ‘just sit still’ after the cigarette falls onto the bed. On several occasions, Salinger makes reference to cigarette ash. They’re supposed to be friends but obviously Lee does not value the friendship. Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. It may be a case that Arthur wishes to maintain or portray an image of happiness (to Lee) rather than having Lee know the truth. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Despite it being clear to Arthur that he can’t trust Joanie, he is unable to completely let her go (something that is also noticeable at the end of the story). By having Joanie face Lee with ‘one eye – on the side of the light closed tight’ it is possible that Salinger is placing the spot light or focus on Joanie, though the fact she has her eye shut suggests that she is unaware that the spot light is now on her (she does remain unsure of what Arthur has said on the phone). Just as the reader suspects that things will not change for Arthur (he is to remain paralysed). I suspect Arthur saw them chatting at the party and thats why he suspected him of taking his wife home in the first place. I have a feeling that it would be a part of my … Joanie too appears to be in conflict within herself (over her cheating on Arthur). Your email address will not be published. They are first described by Salinger as blue, then violet and later in the story Arthur describes them as being like seashells (grey). 1 0 obj Could what you thought was happening was or wasn't? %����
Y esas formas abruptas de acabar los relatos me impactan... What seems to be a fairly day-to-day conversation can mean so much more when Salinger puts his spin on it. There are no discussion topics on this book yet. /Type /Page Christ! If anything Lee appears to be allowing his ego to come into play. Salinger.". Throughout the story the reader never knows for sure what colour Joanie’s eyes actually are. endobj Lee tires of Arthur when the discussion about Junior begins. The tension between the two characters over the phone is remarkable. I'll give you my reading of this dramatic phone call between two colleagues/friends. I think Lee was a winner at first. In Pretty Mouth and Green My Eyes by J.D. It is possible that Arthur, having previously revealed his vulnerability to Lee (about Joanie cheating on him) may now feel even more vulnerable and in order to protect himself (and not display any further weakness) has lied to Lee, assuring him that Joanie has returned home. We’d love your help. /Length 5 0 R I sensed that Arthur had metaphorically screwed Lee at the law firm and was now about to, or had, literally screw(ed) his wife: hearing this mirrored on the phone may be too much for Arthur here. But does it really? All in all it was a good gossipy read that I will never forget. At first, I thought "the girl" in the story is Joanie. Great story for anyone looking to read a "thinker.". “One glance at a book and you hear the voice of another person, perhaps someone dead for 1,000 years. I'll give you my reading of this dramatic phone call between two colleagues/friends. Salinger's Catcher in the Rye, but I'm still unable to have the opportunity, what with the unceasing demands of college. Their colour appears to change on several occasions. Arthur’s job insecurity seems a large point here. The way they both lie to one another at the end of the story puzzled me, intrigued me to understand even more about Arthur's relationship with his wife. I spent time to clarify who "the girl" is. It is an assumption, but she is Joanie for sure, otherwise the story wouldn’t make any sense. Without trying to give too much away, its important to rememebr these men’s professions when reading this, and of course pay attention to the eye color. The important fact in this story was that the winner became a loser, and the loser became a winner at last. I don't know.”, Books that are related to J.D. I guess I expected a bit more from Salinger. For Esmé—with Love and Squalor by J.D. endobj Thanks for the comment Luis. >> /Contents 4 0 R It may also be important that at no stage in the story does Lee appear to feel any guilt about the fact that he is deceiving and betraying Arthur. It varies. For me the answer is yes.) The fact that Joanie is sleeping with Lee, who is after all supposed to be Arthur’s friend, suggests not only a level of dishonesty within Joanie (and Lee) but also serves to highlight to the reader the degree of deception that Joanie and Lee are undertaking. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. This is noticeable when Joanie tells Lee that ‘I feel like an absolute dog!’ However the reader does not get a sense that Joanie wishes to end her affair with Lee or at least Salinger does not explore the possibility of Joanie ending the affair. Lee, keeping cool, tries to convince Author he's crazy and needs to go to sleep, keeping him in the dark about his affair. Salinger, Just Before the War with the Eskimos by J.D. H��V�n�0��+|,�{��Ω��"R�h$$n�v�� There is an assumption (on my behalf) that the girl in Lee’s bed is Joanie. Quo�O���4�\���&?endstream I don't know. Your email address will not be published. Finally, I got an answer which was it is not important in this story. `Rose my color is. After reading it a second and third and even a fourth time a lot more was revealed. He was giving advise (he just said you shoul relax, so I don't think it worked for him), and Arthur was being trouble. This short story is definetely one of my all time favorites, which means I might possibly be biased about it, which in turn means that I do realize it might not be everyone's cup of tea; that's just the way it goes with Salinger, and I have to accept it. 'Rose my color is. There is also some symbolism in the story which may be significant. It is really clear who is winner at last. Salinger sabía hacer sus historias pesar sobre el lector. H��WKo1��W�rX�?�ˍ��H���J���P�=�����q�
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Salinger never gave her true identity and only referred to her as ‘the girl’. Welcome back. /Filter /FlateDecode But when I finished reading, I noticed there was no clear information about "the girl". It seems like at last, Lee was shocked, Arthur was talking his dream. I agree that surely the girl must be Joanne but am interested in learning more about Lee and Arthur. Salinger may be using light to put or place the focus on both Joanie and Lee (who many critics suggest are the guilty party in the story). Also as Lee is reaching for the phone Salinger tells the reader that the light from the lampshade ‘was particularly, if rather vividly, flattering to his (Lee’s) mostly white hair.’ This line may be important as by using light for a second time Salinger appears to be putting the focus on Lee, just as he did with Joanie. High and fine literature is wine, and mine is only water; but everybody likes water. After reading it a second and third and even a fourth time a lot more was revealed. /Length 10 0 R /F1 7 0 R >> It is amazing how a little conversation between characters can create assumptions that we will never know if they are correct or not. The way I read it I believed that Arthur was using his lawyer strategies to get the truth from Lee. /Parent 3 0 R Though conflict is a literary device I think it can also be considered to be a theme. << A game of wits commences as Arthur babbles belligerently about his wife, wearing down Lee's patience. How he is perceived by others (and society) dictating how he is to live his life, rather than base his life on any sort of truth (and in turn leave Joanie). The point of the story being a discussion, whether that be an internal or external discussion with others of who the girl in bed with lee is. stream
He calls Lee back saying Joanie just walked through the door; if Lee sounds shocked then, yes Joanie is in bed with Lee. It’s hard to tell really what Salinger was trying to convey especially because he literally writes down a conversation between two lawyers and we aren’t actually told anything besides what we read between the lines. /Resources Thanks for the comment. All in all it was a good gossipy read that I will never forget. Or I start thinking about--Christ, it's embarrassing--I start thinking about this goddam poem I sent her when we first started goin' around together. However, when the second call happened, Lee lost his voice. It would be interesting to look at the story in a different way and imagine that the girl is not Joanie but still look at the friendship between Lee and Arthur. She doesn't have green eyes--she has eyes like goddam sea shells, for Chrissake.”, “She doesn't respect me. Just when you think you have it figured out, it takes a turn. ��8�DZ�I���ƞy3�͛M.dz��%��[�ƻ3%{�4����a�� ?�`�����࠙�����usb����ӕ���*%����1CPe�:�L;v~��'U���p�C��C��+��r��a��@��1FŘO��p�|��AY�C9������*��7���W�"H4�\P��!��a��������X�6�2���˜0Dz�D��Y��H�m
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After chipping away at Lee, Arthur has one last test to see if his suspicions that Joanie is in his bed are true. Their inner feelings are hidden from us, and thus, so are their motives. << Probably my favorite inclusion in 'Nine Stories'. /MediaBox [0 0 595 842] /F2 8 0 R I suspect Arthur saw them chatting at the party and thats why he suspected him of taking his wife home in the first place. >> He asks Lee if he can come over for a drink, but Lee tells him he better stay put and wait for Joanie to arrive. Lee loses his cool completely and fakes a headache. Check your inbox or spam folder to confirm your subscription. It’s important to note that it may not be Joanie in Lee’s bed. Rather than leave Joanie, he will continue to accept her infidelities. The tension between the two characters over the phone is remarkable. Christ, it's embarrassing--it used to remind me of her. Be sure to read. J.D. /Author (Amin) Did anyone else feel like possibly Arthur tried to wrap up loose ends in terms of his reputation and place his relationship with himself in a less pathetic and bitter light... because he was like fuck it all and decided to kill himself? Taken from his Nine Stories collection the story is narrated in the third person by an unnamed narrator and after reading the story the reader suspects that Salinger is exploring the theme of conflict. Pretty Mouth and Green My Eyes is a required reading for my English 11 (Literature and Society) class. Salinger in someway, Readers' Most Anticipated Books of November. The fact that Arthur lies to Lee when he rings Lee for a second time may also be important. FYI – from an academic POV conflict is not a theme. For me the answer is yes.) 4 0 obj Երկու պատմվածք է գրքում։ Մեկը՝ «իր ավանդական» թեմայով, մյուսը՝ դրան մոտ։ Սովորական պատմվածքներ են, ոչ լավը, ոչ վատը։ Սելինջեր չեմ հավանում, խնդիրը անշուշտ ես եմ կամ գուցե տրամադրության հարց է։ Թարգմանությունները հաջողված են, չեն «նեղում»։ Սելինջերասիրահարներին՝ խորհուրդ է տրվում։))). The ending of the story is also interesting as it is ambiguous. Best wishes. /CreationDate (D:20070506000816+03'30') 9 0 obj In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. However it may be significant that Lee does tell Joanie to ‘just sit still’ after the cigarette falls onto the bed. On several occasions, Salinger makes reference to cigarette ash. They’re supposed to be friends but obviously Lee does not value the friendship. Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. It may be a case that Arthur wishes to maintain or portray an image of happiness (to Lee) rather than having Lee know the truth. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Despite it being clear to Arthur that he can’t trust Joanie, he is unable to completely let her go (something that is also noticeable at the end of the story). By having Joanie face Lee with ‘one eye – on the side of the light closed tight’ it is possible that Salinger is placing the spot light or focus on Joanie, though the fact she has her eye shut suggests that she is unaware that the spot light is now on her (she does remain unsure of what Arthur has said on the phone). Just as the reader suspects that things will not change for Arthur (he is to remain paralysed). I suspect Arthur saw them chatting at the party and thats why he suspected him of taking his wife home in the first place. I have a feeling that it would be a part of my … Joanie too appears to be in conflict within herself (over her cheating on Arthur). Your email address will not be published. They are first described by Salinger as blue, then violet and later in the story Arthur describes them as being like seashells (grey). 1 0 obj Could what you thought was happening was or wasn't? %����
Y esas formas abruptas de acabar los relatos me impactan... What seems to be a fairly day-to-day conversation can mean so much more when Salinger puts his spin on it. There are no discussion topics on this book yet. /Type /Page Christ! If anything Lee appears to be allowing his ego to come into play. Salinger.". Throughout the story the reader never knows for sure what colour Joanie’s eyes actually are. endobj Lee tires of Arthur when the discussion about Junior begins. The tension between the two characters over the phone is remarkable. I'll give you my reading of this dramatic phone call between two colleagues/friends. I think Lee was a winner at first. In Pretty Mouth and Green My Eyes by J.D. It is possible that Arthur, having previously revealed his vulnerability to Lee (about Joanie cheating on him) may now feel even more vulnerable and in order to protect himself (and not display any further weakness) has lied to Lee, assuring him that Joanie has returned home. We’d love your help. /Length 5 0 R I sensed that Arthur had metaphorically screwed Lee at the law firm and was now about to, or had, literally screw(ed) his wife: hearing this mirrored on the phone may be too much for Arthur here. But does it really? All in all it was a good gossipy read that I will never forget. At first, I thought "the girl" in the story is Joanie. Great story for anyone looking to read a "thinker.". “One glance at a book and you hear the voice of another person, perhaps someone dead for 1,000 years. I'll give you my reading of this dramatic phone call between two colleagues/friends. Salinger's Catcher in the Rye, but I'm still unable to have the opportunity, what with the unceasing demands of college. Their colour appears to change on several occasions. Arthur’s job insecurity seems a large point here. The way they both lie to one another at the end of the story puzzled me, intrigued me to understand even more about Arthur's relationship with his wife. I spent time to clarify who "the girl" is. It is an assumption, but she is Joanie for sure, otherwise the story wouldn’t make any sense. Without trying to give too much away, its important to rememebr these men’s professions when reading this, and of course pay attention to the eye color. The important fact in this story was that the winner became a loser, and the loser became a winner at last. I don't know.”, Books that are related to J.D. I guess I expected a bit more from Salinger. For Esmé—with Love and Squalor by J.D. endobj Thanks for the comment Luis. >> /Contents 4 0 R It may also be important that at no stage in the story does Lee appear to feel any guilt about the fact that he is deceiving and betraying Arthur. It varies. For me the answer is yes.) The fact that Joanie is sleeping with Lee, who is after all supposed to be Arthur’s friend, suggests not only a level of dishonesty within Joanie (and Lee) but also serves to highlight to the reader the degree of deception that Joanie and Lee are undertaking. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. This is noticeable when Joanie tells Lee that ‘I feel like an absolute dog!’ However the reader does not get a sense that Joanie wishes to end her affair with Lee or at least Salinger does not explore the possibility of Joanie ending the affair. Lee, keeping cool, tries to convince Author he's crazy and needs to go to sleep, keeping him in the dark about his affair. Salinger, Just Before the War with the Eskimos by J.D. H��V�n�0��+|,�{��Ω��"R�h$$n�v�� There is an assumption (on my behalf) that the girl in Lee’s bed is Joanie. Quo�O���4�\���&?endstream I don't know. Your email address will not be published. Finally, I got an answer which was it is not important in this story. `Rose my color is. After reading it a second and third and even a fourth time a lot more was revealed. He was giving advise (he just said you shoul relax, so I don't think it worked for him), and Arthur was being trouble. This short story is definetely one of my all time favorites, which means I might possibly be biased about it, which in turn means that I do realize it might not be everyone's cup of tea; that's just the way it goes with Salinger, and I have to accept it. 'Rose my color is. There is also some symbolism in the story which may be significant. It is really clear who is winner at last. Salinger sabía hacer sus historias pesar sobre el lector. H��WKo1��W�rX�?�ˍ��H���J���P�=�����q�
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